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My Food Club Bets for Round 6642 / July 13, 2017

WARNING: The timing of Food Club is glitched.
The gates close at the announced time (1:45pm - 2:15 pm NST), but the match actually runs later, at approximately 3:00pm NST.
In the 2:15pm - 3:00pm NST time frame, bets can be made on the new match. However, in the past in similar situations glitches with such bets have been reported.
My recommendation is to only bet and collect winnings before gates close (1:45pm NST), or after the round has finished (let's say, including some margin, after 3:10pm NST).


From July 14 until August 5, I am on summer holiday.
During this period, my bets may be placed at unusual hours, or not at all.

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One of my safeties hit yesterday, for a 28:10 payout.
Nice!

New bets below, no time for my usual explanation. It's 0:30 over here, and I need to get up and start driving to the airport at 4:30. :(

Current Bets
RoundBet InfoAmountOddsWinnings
6643Lagoon: Admiral Blackbeard
Hidden Cove: Federismo Corvallio
7488 NP16:1119808 NP
6643Lagoon: The Tailhook Kid
Hidden Cove: Federismo Corvallio
Harpoon Harry's: Buck Cutlass
7488 NP8:159904 NP
6643Lagoon: The Tailhook Kid
Hidden Cove: Federismo Corvallio
Harpoon Harry's: Ned the Skipper
7488 NP8:159904 NP
6643Lagoon: The Tailhook Kid
Hidden Cove: Captain Crossblades
7488 NP14:1104832 NP
6643Lagoon: The Tailhook Kid
Treasure Island: Sir Edmund Ogletree
Hidden Cove: Federismo Corvallio
7488 NP12:189856 NP
6643Lagoon: The Tailhook Kid
Treasure Island: Lucky McKyriggan
Hidden Cove: Federismo Corvallio
7488 NP20:1149760 NP
6643Lagoon: The Tailhook Kid
Treasure Island: Franchisco Corvallio
Hidden Cove: Federismo Corvallio
7488 NP12:189856 NP
6643Lagoon: The Tailhook Kid
Treasure Island: Ol' Stripey
Hidden Cove: Federismo Corvallio
7488 NP20:1149760 NP
6643Lagoon: Young Sproggie
Hidden Cove: Federismo Corvallio
7488 NP8:159904 NP
6643Lagoon: The Tailhook Kid
Hidden Cove: Stuff-A-Roo
7488 NP20:1149760 NP
Total Possible Winnings1033344 NP

Odds may change over the day. The listed odds are what they were at the time I updated the page.


Don't like my bets? Try someone else's.
A lot of people publish their bets and/or guides similar likes these. Most of them follow different strategies, and those that have a similar strategy still often make different choices.
Morris has compiled a list of Food Club bettor pages. So if you want to try someone else's bets, that page should be your first stop.

Some other Food Club related links:
Food Club main page
Revenge's Food Club guide
Sirhatter's betting guide
Food Club Monthly Competition


My betting system

The bets I made are based on a method I started using in september 2010. This method has proved itself to be better than the method I used before, and lots better than my first attempts to outsmart the system.
Many thanks go to sirhatter. His betting guide has helped me make lots of neopoints, until I found a way to improve upon his method.
Without sirhatter, this guide would never have existed.

What odds to use?

The odds for the various pirates change throughout the day. Many people have different theories about the relevance of opening odds, movements, and closing odds.
My theory is that the opening odds are determined by the Neopets computer, based on their actual chances of winning, and that movements throughout the day are caused by players' actions: if a lot of players bet a pirate his odds go up; if almost noone includes him, his odds go down.
Since I consider the opening odds to best reflect the actual chances, these are the odds I always use when picking my bets.

Calculating value

The first step in my betting system is to calculate the value for each of the five arenas. The value is found by converting the listed odds to percentage values, adding those percentage values, and subtracting the total from 100%.
For example, suppose the pirates in an arena are listed as 2:1, 6:1, 8:1 and 13:1. Converting to percentages yields 50%, 16.67%, 12.5%, and 7.69%; a total of 86.86%.
The value of this arena is 13.14% (100% - 86.86%).

Choosing bets

The next step is to count the number of arenas with a positive value, since the bets to be made depend on the number of positive values.

If there are no arenas with a positive value:

In this case, I don't bet at all.
There are people who will bet, and some will even make nice wins. But in my experience, you'll lose more neopoints than you win in the long run, so the winning strategy is not to bet if no arenas have a positive value.

If there is one arena with a positive value:

In the positive value arena, find the pirate with the 2:1 odds. (There should always be exactly one). I will make ten bets (the maximum), all on this pirate + one other pirate.

Here's how to find the ten pirates to include in these bets are:

  1. Start with the remaining arena with the highest value. (Since the remaining arenas have negative values, remember that -2.5% is higher then -14.8%!).
    Use all pirates from this arena, except those that have 13:1 odds. (The reason why I omit 13:1 pirates is that their real odds might be much worse. The Food Club never goes below 13:1, but the actual odds may be worse - and an actual win chance of (for instance) 25:1 with a payout of only 13:1 is terrible value. Sometimes, the strength and food adjustments of pirates indicate that it might be a "real" 13:1; in those cases, I do include the 13:1 pirate in these bets).
  2. Repeat the previous step until you have exhausted the ten bets.
Note that you must include all pirates from at least one arena. If all the arenas with "high" negative value have one or two 13:1 pirates, then you must either use a different arena, or include the 13:1 pirates from one arena (check strength and food adjustment to find one that is at least close to a "real" 13:1).

If there are two arenas with a positive value:

Let's call the arenas with a positive value X and Y.
You place ten bets, as follows:

  1. One bet on two pirates: the 2:1 pirate from X combined with the 2:1 pirate from Y;
  2. Zero or more safety bets on two pirates: the 2:1 pirate from X combined with each of the 3:1 to 7:1 pirates from Y;
  3. Zero or more safety bets on two pirates: the 2:1 pirate from Y combined with each of the 3:1 to 7:1 pirates from X;
  4. All remaining bets are "booster bets" on three pirates: the two 2:1 pirates from X and Y plus one pirate from one of the three remaining arenas.
    The choice of the third pirate in the booster bets is similar to the choice for finding the second pirate in the section for one positive value above.
    One extra guideline is that the single 4:1 bet on the two 2:1 pirates may be replaced by a booster bet if at least one arena has all its pirates included in booster bets. To make this happen, I sometimes include a 13:1 pirate in my set of booster bets.

If there are three arenas with a positive value:

If one of the three arenas has a very small positive value, you can opt to use the strategy for two arenas with a positive value (using the two arenas with the highest values).
If all three arenas have at least a decent positive value, or if you decide to take a bit more risk (and maybe win a bit more), then you can play the full three arenas.
Let's call the arenas with a positive value X, Y, and Z.
You place ten bets, as follows:

  1. Three bets on two pirates: the 2:1 pirates from X and Y, from X and Z, and from Y and Z;
  2. One bet on three pirates: the 2:1 pirates from X, Y, and Z;
  3. Zero or more safety bets on three pirates: the 2:1 pirates from X and Y combined with each of the 3:1 to 7:1 pirates from Z;
  4. Zero or more safety bets on three pirates: the 2:1 pirates from X and Z combined with each of the 3:1 to 7:1 pirates from Y;
  5. Zero or more safety bets on three pirates: the 2:1 pirates from Y and Z combined with each of the 3:1 to 7:1 pirates from X;
  6. All remaining bets (if there are any) are "booster bets" on four pirates: the three 2:1 pirates from X, Y, and Z, combined with one pirate from one of the two remaining arenas.
    The choice of the fourth pirate in the remaining bets is similar to the choice for finding the third pirate in the section for two positive values above. This also includes the option to replace the single 8:1 bets on the three 2:1 pirates with an extra booster bet if at least one arena has all its pirates included in booster bets.

If there are four arenas with a positive value:

This is extremely rare - and offers a very good chance to make lots of neopoints!

If two of the four arenas have an extremely small positive value, you can opt to use the strategy for two arenas with a positive value (using the two arenas with the highest values).
If one of the four arenas has smallish positive value, you can opt to use the strategy for three arenas with a positive value (using the three arenas with the highest values).
If all four arenas have a very high value (20% or better), you can choose to go "all in" on the 2:1 pirates from these arenas:

  1. Four bets on three pirates: the 2:1 pirates from each possible combination of three of the positive value arenas;
  2. Six bets on two pirates: the 2:1 pirates each possible combination of two of the positive value arenas.

If all five arenas have a positive value:

This is an extremely rare scenario. I have seen it happen - but only once or twice in more than a year of playing almost every day!
Anyway, if it does happen, then the method is similar to the four-arena scenario above.
There are two alternative strategies, though. The first one can be used if all five arenas have an extremely high value:

  1. Five bets on four 2:1 pirates (using every possible combination of four arenas).
  2. Five bets on three 2:1 pirates (using every arena in three of these five bets, or using the highest value arenas more often).
  3. Optionally, replace one of the five bets on three pirates with a five-way bet on all pirates.
The second one can be used if all five arenas have a moderately high value, and all of them are about as likely to upset (so no easy choice of which arenas to leave out when you want to fallback on the two-, three- or four-arena game):
  1. Ten bets on three 2:1 pirates (using every possible combination of three arenas).
  2. Alternatively, make this ten bets on two 2:1 pirates (using every possible combination of two arenas).

Final note

I consider the above system as a guideline.
I usually end up betting according to this system, but I also always check strength and food adjustment of the pirates in each arena.
Sometimes I end up deviating from the method described above. In some cases, this has made me more money, or reduced my loss. In other cases, it has cost me money.

And remember, Food Club is a gambling game. No matter how smart your system, you will always have days, sometimes even weeks, where you win nothing. Don't worry, just keep on playing. My statistics (see below) prove that in the long run, I come out ahead.


Statistics

The tables below list my results. These reflect the bets I made since I started to use the method described above.

Daily breakdown of the last month
RoundDateResult
6613June 14, 201732:10 (+22)
6614June 15, 201718:10 (+8)
6615June 16, 201748:10 (+38)
6616June 17, 201712:10 (+2)
6617June 18, 20170:10 (-10)
6618June 19, 20170:10 (-10)
6619June 20, 201756:10 (+46)
6620June 21, 201714:10 (+4)
6621June 22, 20170:10 (-10)
6622June 23, 201714:10 (+4)
6623June 24, 201718:10 (+8)
6624June 25, 201736:10 (+26)
6625June 26, 201714:10 (+4)
6626June 27, 201724:10 (+14)
6627June 28, 201726:10 (+16)
6628June 29, 201712:10 (+2)
6629June 30, 20170:10 (-10)
6630July 1, 201714:10 (+4)
6631July 2, 201716:10 (+6)
6632July 3, 20170:10 (-10)
6633July 4, 201720:10 (+10)
6634July 5, 201720:10 (+10)
6635July 6, 20170:10 (-10)
6636July 7, 201716:10 (+6)
6637July 8, 201720:10 (+10)
6638July 9, 201716:10 (+6)
6639July 10, 201716:10 (+6)
6640July 11, 201732:10 (+22)
6641July 12, 201714:10 (+4)
6642July 13, 201728:10 (+18)



Aggregated results per month
MonthTotal resultsProfitAvg daily profitAvg return
September, 2010430:270+160+5,33+59,3%
October, 2010538:310+228+7,35+73,5%
November, 2010512:270+242+8,64+89,6%
December, 2010488:300+188+6,27+62,7%
January, 2011646:280+366+13,07+130,7%
February, 2011288:260+28+1,08+10,8%
March, 2011374:280+94+3,36+33,6%
April, 2011432:300+132+4,40+44,0%
May, 2011514:290+224+7,72+77,2%
June, 2011490:280+210+7,50+75,0%
July, 2011268:200+68+3,40+34,0%
August, 2011176:220-44-2,00-20,0%
September, 2011562:290+272+9,38+93,8%
October, 2011492:270+222+8,22+82,2%
November, 2011428:280+148+5,29+52,9%
December, 2011486:290+196+6,76+67,6%
January, 2012766:290+476+16,41+164,1%
February, 2012254:260-6-0,23-2,3%
March, 2012504:280+224+8,00+80,0%
April, 2012682:280+402+14,36+143,6%
May, 2012510:310+200+6,45+64,5%
June, 2012514:280+234+8,36+83,6%
July, 2012308:130+178+13,69+136,9%
August, 2012604:260+344+13,23+132,3%
September, 2012432:280+152+5,43+54,3%
October, 2012488:290+198+6,83+68,3%
November, 2012428:290+138+4,76+47,6%
December, 2012588:280+308+11,00+110,0%
January, 2013388:270+118+4,37+43,7%
February, 2013722:270+452+16,74+167,4%
March, 2013464:270+194+7,19+71,9%
April, 2013440:280+160+5,71+57,1%
May, 2013518:290+228+7,86+78,6%
June, 2013598:300+298+9,93+99,3%
July, 2013444:290+154+5,31+53,1%
August, 2013640:280+360+12,86+128,6%
September, 2013774:290+484+16,69+166,9%
October, 2013508:290+218+7,52+75,2%
November, 2013526:280+246+8,79+87,9%
December, 2013564:300+264+8,80+88,0%
January, 2014456:280+176+6,29+62,9%
February, 2014510:260+250+9,62+96,2%
March, 2014614:280+334+11,93+119,3%
April, 2014316:240+76+3,17+31,7%
May, 2014576:310+266+4,84+85,8%
June, 2014604:300+304+10,13+101,3%
July, 2014404:270+134+4,96+49,6%
August, 2014658:290+368+12,69+126,9%
September, 2014518:200+318+15,90+159,0%
October, 2014274:190+84+4,42+44,2%
June, 2017530:280+250+8,93+89,3%
July, 2017212:130+82+6,31+63,1%
Overall totals25380:14010+11370+8,12+81,2%



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