Welcome to the Olly's Application-Related Pages!.

On /~Kri, you can find fun, application-related sub-pages, including:
  • (H)CBO (Harsh) Critiques by Olly: A service providing harsh application and character-based petpage critiques since 2011.
  • CMM:APP Commonly Made Mistakes: Application Process: A guide telling you what not to do when making an application to adopt a Neopet.
  • CMM:FOS Commonly Made Mistakes: Fostering: A guide telling you what not to do when fostering a Neopet. (coming soon!)
  • UFA: A placeholder page for when I have pets up for adoption.
Also coming soon: A pretty image to replace this front page!









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Critiques are OPEN

Have you ever wanted a harsh critique for an application or honest opinion about a petpage, but not known where to go? Do you want a critique, but see no boards up on the PC? Have you spent hours being frustrated of being told how great a job you have done instead of being offered suggestions of what to do better? Have you ever just had a random question about the application process which you wanted answered?

Did you just answer "Yes" to any or all of the questions above? Well then, visitor, you have come to the right place!

Welcome to (Harsh) Critiques by Olly! The purpose of this petpage is to provide Neopians with a place to which they can always go to receive critiques for their work. Though originally meant to only be used for applications, (H)CBO is actually open to character-based petpages and some other sites as well. Simply read through the the rest of this page to learn how to submit your page, or look through critiques in order to shamelessly learn from the mistakes of others.

Please do not hesistate to contact me or use the services of this page; after all, what would be the point of hosting a site if nobody uses it? Feel free to explore this page (or the ones linked to on the Sitely) to your heart's content. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, please read through the Information page. If it is not addressed there, feel free to contact 0llyness.

Updates
Apr 24, 2017 After another (kind of long) break, (H)CBO is once again back! Here's to hoping that both old and new users find us useful. One major change, though: instead of posting critiques, they will be sent to users in neomails.

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RULES

I am harsh. I find it rather sad that I have to point this out (considering that this page is called HARSH Critiques by Olly), but there are always the people that request critiques but do not understand that I am brutally honest. I do not care if I hurt your feelings in my critique; if I find something to complain about, I will complain about it. You have been warned.

Please take into account what I say in my critique. I understand that you probably will not agree with everything and do not expect you to make every change which I suggest, but do not forget that I took time out of my day to look over your application. Frankly, in my real life, people actually pay me for critiquing their papers and other writing projects, so offering this service on Neopia in exchange for nothing at all is something I do just because I like seeing pretty applications. I ask that you respect the effort which I put into the critique by at least reading it and making some changes; not to mention that I have met plenty of people that (generally speaking) share my views on many matters.

Please only ever contact 0llyness. 0llyness is my main account, and thus the destination that I like most neomails to reach. Just because I am on a side account on a board does not mean that you are free to contact that side account; I treat side accounts as havens and requests for critiques on those accounts will simply go ignored and unanswered. If the inbox is full, you may send a junk item to the account and instead mail the account 0llytastic. Please read the FAQ before submitting a question. I do try to keep it updated.

I will only critique on-site pages. This rule should be self-explanatory.

I do not use a waitlist. This leads to me having very curious timing requests, as explained below.

Please send me any applications to be critiqued at least a week before the deadline. The average critique takes me approximately half an hour to an hour to do. This may not seem like much, but if I get four applications the night before they are due, that is at least two hours of my time that I have to devote to the applications, and I cannot always guarentee this. After all, I do have a life. The secret word is harsh. Because I do not use an on-site waitlist, I will accept the first five critiques that come to me every week and put the rest on hold. If I have time, I will critique all of the applications I receive; if not, then only the first five. However, if I have a very busy week, I apologize but I might not have time to do any critiques at all. I'm only human, after all.

Do not take the critique personally. Just because I did not like your ____ or insulted your ____ does not mean that I am trying to belittle you. I try to critique things without caring who the owner is, and me being harsh does not mean that I dislike you personally. Keep in mind that this is the internet, we are all pixels, and that Neopets is a game.

I will not critique major works in progress, deal with chatspeak or an overload of smilies, or put up with last-minute requests. On the other hand, I would appreciate you using a link back button on your page but understand if you would prefer not to. I will probably not look over your accounts unless requested, sorry, but feel free to make this request in the Other section on the form.

Your critique will be mailed to you. I used to post them, which was fun, but now I've changed my ways and would much rather simply respond to your neomail with a critique inside. This may take several neomails to accomplish. If one does not go through, please let me know - I will store your critique on my laptop for up to a week after it has been returned to you.

Ready to ask for a critique?
Click the box below and press Ctrl+A and then Ctrl+C, then click the Neomail Me sign below it. Press Ctrl+V in the body of the Neomail. Ensure that the subject is (H)CBO Critique Request The different sections of the form are explained below.


Deadline (if applicable)
Date Submitted (this will help ensure that I do not leave your page lying around for two months)
Username (the one to which you would prefer your critique link sent once completed)
Your Name (the one by which you go by)
Page Style (application, petpage, or misc)
Pet Name / Type (by type, the color, species, and conversion status are referred to)
Link (/~PETNAME is preferred over a full link)
Odd Rules or Requests (if applicable; some fosters limit the amount of art/writing which applicants may include or ask certain questions... if you do not include this, how else will I know?)
Additional Notes (anything extra which you may like to add about the page, or any additional requests)
Pledge (this ensures that we're both in agreement over what this page offers and will hopefully lead to less people complaining that I may or may not have been mean to them.)



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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

What types of pages will you critique?
Character-based petpages and petpage applications for pets. In essence, I critique anything related to characters of pets, or information about the pets themselves. I do not critique sites, but I do offer account checks for prospective applicants which may involve me glancing at them.

Can I request multiple critiques?
Certainly! However, I ask that you do not request more than three in a two week period. Otherwise, feel free to request to your heart's content! If you wish for me to look at a page which I have already seen, I ask that you make significant changes to it and wait at least a week before requesting for me to revisit.

What is your resolution?
I have multiple screens that I use to review applications: typically I'll be using a 1920x1080 or 1600x900 screen, but I can also pull out a 4k laptop if you request it.

What made you decide to create this site?
(H)CBO began as a series of application critique boards created around the Pound Chat. I had spent plenty of time applying and seeking critiques, and found that many "ratings" and "critiques" were more or less intended to be kind and polite; something which I found had a tendency to remove the honesty. Nooblet applications for draiks were getting rated 10/10s because they tried, regardless of whether or not they were likely of being chosen, and so forth. I sought to change this. My critiques were actually among the first things I did on Neopia which earned me haters, but I have no regrets. For every ten people that hate me, there is one that actually pays attention to my ramblings, and it's worth all of the haters in the world to watch a mediocre application improve and be chosen for that high profile pet.

How do you judge the applications and petpages that you look at?
It varies. Sadly, I cannot review every single page which I look at with the same intensity; this would simply take too much time and there is too much variation in my environment. Critiques occuring when I am in a bad mood will be harsher; petpages will tend to be more lenient than applications, and so forth. I basically read through the page, typing up my commentary as I go. I do not provide a score; instead, you more or less get a list of things that I like and things that I would recommend for you to improve upon.

How long does it take for you to critique a page?
It depends on both the length of the page in question and what is going on in my life. Because of this, I require at least a week before major application deadlines unless you are a friend of mine. I will prioritize applications over petpages, sorry. Time wise, though, every critique takes me at least half an hour, but most are closer to an hour.

Will you become my affiliate?
If you are an application/petpage/coding/character-design page (or one related to it), then sure! Simply neomail 0llyness with your request and we can exchange buttons.

What suggestions can you offer to petpages and applications?
I actually have a page for things that I dislike seeing in applications! Also, be sure to check out Dorothy's two guides. Otherwise, formalize your diction and refrain from smilies - applications are like essays, not chatting with your friends. In the Extras section of this page, there is a section devoted to helpful pages; I would recommend that you consult them if you have questions.

What order do you read pages in?
It depends, really. Applications with one week or less until their deadline get priority, of course, as do those with under two left. After that, all applications and petpages are read in the order that they were submitted. Petpages tend to be reviewed when application deadlines are farther away.

I'm confused. Is this page run by Kads or Meepits?
President Olly is a Kad, though it is debated over whether she is a normal Kad or a faerie one. However, we may have one or two Ollies working for us that never returned to normality after our Kadventures appearance in the 500th Issue of the Neopian Times.

What makes you think that you are worthy of reading my application?
I have critiqued hundreds of applications and have been friends with dozens of high-profile pet fosters. I have been the judge for many high-end pets, and the unofficial judge for many more. Furthermore, my friends and I have been successful in at least some our own application attempts, and we have all discussed what factors we believe have led to our success.

I hate/love your critiques.
Well, unless you send me a survey, I will never know. Or pay attention. Same thing, really.

I hate you.
In the immortal words of TNT's editorial...


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Neomail 0llyness with it.




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commonly made mistakes
application process





i. an introduction

Whether you're a first-time applicant or a veteran of many processes, applying for a Neopet can be a stressful and confusing endeavor. Sure, there are plenty of guides out there to help you, but maybe you want something different – a guide that, instead of commanding you to do this or this, tells you what not to do. You've come to the right place. Welcome to CMM:APP.

Hi there, fosters! If you are looking for a site specifically about commonly made mistakes while fostering a pet, a parallel page for you is coming soon!

Before we begin, let's get one thing clear: this is not a guide about how to apply for pets. Seriously. There are plenty of those out there (some of my favorites being this one and this other one, both written by a spectacular unicorn), so we don't need another comprehensive guide about how to make an application. However, this is a site devoted to helping people apply for pets – namely, helping Neopians like you avoid several mistakes commonly made while applying for pets. Hence the name of this site, cmm:APP, standing for Commonly Made Mistakes in the Application Process.

A Quick Glossary of Commonly Used Terms
CMM Commonly Made Mistake

Now that we have that established, allow me to introduce myself. My name is Olly (main account 0llyness) and I have been involved in the application process for over eight years now. It's nice to meet you. The first pet I ever applied for was Jaderasi, a pirate Lupe (back when pirates were a big deal, mind you; also, that application was terrible, in case you're wondering), and ever since then I've been in love with the process. I've applied for pets, been chosen to adopt pets, fostered pets, helped other Neopians decide who to foster their pets to, offered critiques, read hundred (if not thousands) of applications, been involved in my fair share of application drama, and have overall just been present in the midst of all of it for a substantial chunk of my life. And now I'm here to share my expertise with you, Neopian.

It's worth noting that this guide is meant to be used as a general guideline and not some sort of law. There are plenty of cases in which some (if not all) of these mistakes are made and the applicant is still chosen to adopt a specific pet, and, likewise, there are some successful applicants that systematically make these errors. Heck, even I have made some of these in my more recent applications and still been successful. If you don't agree with one of these and think that it's not a mistake, go ahead do it. Seriously, I'm neither your deity nor your mother, so I have no power to stop you. Still, in the broad scheme of things, the items mentioned here are best avoided, because they do tend to be mistakes more often than not, and they are quite common.

Disclaimer I am going to use real stories of past application processes to illustrate many of my points. All of the identifiable details (names, pets, dates, number of calamari rings consumed, etc.) have been changed to preserve the anonymity of those involved. Any names used in examples were pulled out of my head at random and any similarity that they have to any real Neopians is purely coincidental.

So, shall we begin?

ii. what to expect

This site will be ordered as follows:

I. A lovely introduction meant to make you feel warm and fuzzy. You felt warm and fuzzy reading that, didn't you? If not, please keep re-reading it until you've hit with that warm-and-fuzzy feeling.

II. A section describing what you should expect to find on this site. (Hint: it's not a guide on how to write an application). There's also a list of the CMMs that I will be discussing, in case you're too lazy to scroll down. That's this section, in case you're wondering.

III. A section comprising of more in-depth details about the major CMMs. This includes looking at each one individually, describing it, and explaining why each is a mistake (because "because Olly said so" isn't actually a good reason). By the way, there are stories here.

IV. A list of other CMMs. Basically, things that should be avoided but didn't warrant their own longer write-ups. They're either too self-explanatory or too minor for me to bother.

V. A list of community- and reader- submitted CMMs. Apparently, I'm not the only authority on this; other people have opinions, and those opinions matter too (or so I hear).

VI. A couple of application-related extras. These include a list of sites on this topic that I recommend, skeleton for several types of neomail applications, an extended-neomail-put-onto-a-petpage layout, and some other goodies. Because goodies are awesome. Very awesome.

VII. A sitely section. Because yes, I do need to shamelessly advertise my other sites, and yes, I do take affiliates, and yes, there is a button for you to take so that you can help me advertise, and yes, please do list me at/on your X.

And now, without further ado, the Grand List of Major Commonly Made Mistakes in the Application Process! (This is where you gasp)
  1. Not vetting the foster.
  2. Creating a hard-to-read, incoherent, or overly informal application.
  3. Not customizing your application for the pet that you are applying for.
  4. Not being proactive about the application process.
  5. Ignoring the importance of having accounts and other pets that have clearly been worked on.
  6. Making unsupported promises or setting unrealistic goals if chosen.
  7. Believing that the quantity of information and quality of the application are somehow related.
  8. Being certain of the outcome of the process before even beginning.
  9. Trying to host a pity party.
  10. Letting yourself have a bad reputation, be it from previous application processes or from the boards.
  11. And, of course, the most important (bonus) one: Losing your soul in the process of applying for a pet.
So now that we have those established, are you excited to proceed? I am. Let's do it!

iii. major cmms

1. Not vetting the foster.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

2. Creating a hard-to-read, incoherent, or overly informal application.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

3. Not customizing your application for the pet that you are applying for.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

4. Not being proactive about the application process.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

5. Ignoring the importance of having accounts and other pets that have clearly been worked on.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

6. Making unsupported promises or setting unrealistic goals if chosen.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

7. Believing that the quantity of information and quality of the application are somehow related.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

8. Being certain of the outcome of the process before even beginning.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

9. Trying to host a pity party.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

10. Letting yourself have a bad reputation, be it from previous application processes or from the boards.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

11. Losing your soul in the process of applying for a pet.
a. Description b. Why it's bad c. When it's okay d. Story time!

iv. other cmms

Phew, that was a mouthful. Now that I have those out of the way, let's focus on some of the CMMs that are either too obvious or too small (it should be clear which is which) for me to feel like going in-depth about them. Enjoy.
  1. Stealing anything, or using any content that you don't have permission to use on/in/for your application. Stealing is wrong, children, and it's not nice. If you get caught, there can be far harsher consequences than simply not being chosen for the pet.
  2. Not paying attention to what the foster says that they want. There are always rules for a pet, whether it's a single line on a board or a long and in-depth rules page. You should always read these and understand them. Otherwise, it can be grounds for instant disqualification, or, worse, become fodder for the foster and their friends to laugh about.
  3. Submitting the application incorrectly. Seriously, the first thing that the foster sees of your application is how you submitted it. Pay attention to the account, format, subject line, or whatever other requirements the foster might have put in place and actually comply with their desires.
  4. Not keeping track of the deadline or keeping up with any updates. Sure, sometimes life gets in the way and every now and then a foster might move it forward, but it's your responsibility, as an applicant, to keep track of the deadline and periodically check for updates.


v. community cmms

Have some. And a form.

vi. goodies

fill-in-the-blank application
neomail-on-petpage layout
Shell for several types of neomail applications (retrade, character-focused, project page, submitting a petpage app, etc.]
Oh, and some further reading.

vii. sitely


Phew, that was a lot of information. Kudos to you for having sat there and read through it all! You were already awesome when you started, and hopefully you've now become a little more awesome because of what you've read through.

I'd like to thank several people that really helped this guide come together.
  • Dorothy, you're an inspiration to us all. /~Skanzar taught so many people how to app, and /~Applicant is incredible as well. You're a great application mentor and a good friend, and without you CMM:APP would never exist.
  • Solo. For stuff. I'm sure I'll have plenty of reasons to thank her.
  • Other people.
  • The PC.
  • The reader.
Now that I have that out of the way, please feel free to grab a button to help spread the word about this site or visit one of my other pages, affiliates, or listers!

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I'm going to make this very simple.

  1. Please neomail all applications, questions, concerns, comments, and such to 0llyness. I will do my best to respond quickly.
  2. The deadline is midnight NST on n/a. I will try to transfer that week, and I would prefer that you have an open transfer to accept if chosen.
  3. Any type of application will be accepted. Seriously. A good, well-written neomail application will be considered just as much as a petpage application of the same class. If you choose to do a petpage application, please include a disclaimer stating that I did not force you to. If a neomail application takes multiple mails, please number them.
  4. Any application that I receive will be added to this page. This will help me keep track of it, and will also give you piece of mind that I have not lost your application.
  5. My main monitor's resolution is 1900x1080. I also use two laptops with resolutions of 1600x900 and 3200x1800, so let me know if you would prefer that I use one of them.
  6. Have fun. Seriously - Neopets is supposed to be a game. Please don't apply if you don't actually enjoy the process of applying.

Since people keep asking...

Can I reuse an old application / apply for a friend / apply to re-trade / apply if my main account is currently frozen / insert-situation-here?
Yes. Everyone may apply.
Feel free to explain (or at least mention) any such situation if they apply to you or your application, but you don't have to. The one exception would be retrading, as I'd prefer for you to state that intention, but I won't hold it against you. If you do intend to retrade, please create the application for the pet you would be seeking, but use my up for adoption pet's name as the pet you are applying for's name.

Will he keep the petpet/petpetpet? (if applicable)
If you would like him to keep them, include that in your application. If not, I'll probably remove them before transferring.

Can you not include this part of my application on the petpage?
Please don't ask me to do this. I clear my inbox often. If it's not on the page, I won't remember or reference that part of your application when I'm reading through applications. This makes it easier on everyone, I promise - you see exactly what I will see when I read through submitted applications.

What do you want to see in applications?
I don't like this question because I feel like it forces me to tell people what I want them to write instead of them genuinely writing what they would like to write. So instead I will shamelessly advertise two of Dorothy's great guides on the topic: /~Skanzar and /~Applicant. If you're looking for a guide specifically catered to neomail applications, I would recommend /~Nap or the (short) neomail application section of /~Applicant. Oh, and I will be glancing at accounts in addition to applications.

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