ALTADOR PLOT GUIDE SUPPLEMENT

GOOD GUIDES
(All of these guides have good screenies. I used all of these at 1 time or another. Sometimes 1 guide will explain something better than another, or just be easier for you to understand.)

http://www.neopets.com/~ferrarihorse360
http://neopets.com/~Ma_Belle_Michelle
http://www.neopets.com/~Arrazetti


GOOD STAR MAPPERS
(these will find your coords for you)
paste link to addr bar, click enter, follow instr

http://hacks.atrus.org/neopets/findConstellations.fcgi
gives constellation coords and spellbook room coords (at bottom of list)

http://www.alpha-slash.com/stars.html

http://members.verizon.net/~vze2g7jw/dfp/sg.htm
This is Arrazetti's StarGate starmapper. I didn't use it, (didn't know about it) but it gives a map showing the location of your stars. Just follow the directions on the page. Pretty nifty!

Official Neopets star data page:
http://www.neopets.com/altador/astro.phtml?get_star_data=1

Be sure to talk to the lenny before you look for the constellation -- the star data and map won't update till he sends you to the observatory/telescope. If you get "bad star data" it means you missed a step -- probably talking to the lenny or visiting the astronomy club.


HOW TO READ THE SKY
The sky is basically a grid divided into 4 quadrants. Each star has an x and a y coord, and each const has 6 stars. In the coord, X is the number before the comma and y is after the comma. The top left quad of the sky is neg,pos – top right is pos,pos – bottom left is neg,neg – bottom right is pos,neg. You can get the const coords from a star mapper, then go to the right quadrant to find those coords

1st TO RISE

If you can't click on the bushes at the bottom left of the tomb, click somewhere in the pic that isn't tabable, then tab 3 times and click enter. That should get it.


PUNCH CLUB COMBOS

111 112 113 121 122 123 131 132 133
211 212 213 221 222 223 231 232 233
311 312 313 321 322 323 331 332 333

For 111, click the 1st bowl 3 times. For 321, click the 3rd bowl 1 time, the 2nd bowl, 1 time, the 1st bowl 1 time, etc.

Cross off each as you do it. Give pg time to refresh & remember to check goblet after each one

The graal moves around. He won't be in the same window every time you go to the colesseum.


THE COLLECTOR

The clue will be found in 1 of the shops in Altador. One shop has a coin purse with a pic of a scale on it. One has a chocolate coin with the scales on it. One has a scale. Check 1 of the shops. Take the rate of inflation x 100 -- so infl of 7.31 = 731np, etc. Go to the bank and withdraw or deposit np so that you have exactly the amt you need for that shop. Go back to the shop. If the item isn't there, try refreshing a couple of times. If the item still isn't there, go to the 2nd shop and repeat the steps above. If it isn't there, repeat for 3rd shop. (Pet shop doesn't count, so you don't need to go there.) When you find the item, click on it. You won't actually buy it, but it will give you the clue.


HEALING THE PETPET

First make sure you have bandages, pie, and medicine. Then the secret is to check on him and do whatever cure he needs 1 time per minute AND NO MORE! (He may want the same cure several times in a row. That's ok. Just do whatever the demanding little thing wants.) It doesn't have to be exactly 60 sec, but must be into the next minute. If you do too many things per min, or the wrong thing, or skip a min, you have to leave the archives & start over

Start at the top of a minute so cures aren't too close together. In between minutes (after you do the cure) just sit and WAIT. Don't do anything. Don't touch your mouse or keyboard! Use your comp clock to keep track. It shouldn't take over 10 or 11 min. If it does, leave the archives & start over.


HERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO HEAL THE VAEOLUS...
(I didn't do it this way, cuz it confused me. But I read that it helped some people, so you might want to try it)

These are the steps for healing the Vaeolus only, you must already have found the pie, bandages and medicine...
#1 start from the archives... (this resets your Vaeolus page)
#2 click the Vaeolus
#3 check where the title Atlador is on your page... mine was at the line between explore and games
#4 click on 'give medicine' and then click on 'check in' you should have a bit that says av0=meds at the end of the URL if the word Altador moved down a line then it's the wrong action so... delete the last 4 letters in the URL and type in 'wait' or 'feed' or 'bind' hit enter and then 'check in' repeat until the word 'Altador' goes back to where it was originally
#5 repeat step #4 until you have av9=some action and the skeith will appear!!


WATER PLANT

Completely random! I think you only have to change 1 thing in each room, so note what position gears and levers are in when you 1st enter. Then work systematically going from 1 room to the next (l to r or r to l and back again) changing 1 thing in each room as you go, and making sure all other things are the same as when you started. At least, that's what finally worked for me.

OR try one of these:

Waterplant combos at the daily neopets
http://www.thedailyneopets.com/altador-plot/waterplant/


TO FIND 3 ROCKS FOR GEARS

These are the basics. Use a guide to fill in.
Buy 1st rock. Take to basement & stick in any gear. Take it back out. Go back to quarry. Throw rock. Steal 2nd rock. Pick up rock you threw. Go to Herb Club and then to circus. Learn to juggle. Go back to quarry & juggle for jubjubs.


TO FIND THE RIGHT GEARS

Draw 3 rows of circles (representing gears) on a piece of paper
Put a rock in the 1st gear. Go back to the janitor and press the button to see how far the ceiling opened. If it opens to the left, cross it out. If it opens to the right, note how many notches it opened the ceiling and write it down on the drawing. If it opened the ceiling 4 or more notches, leave the rock in the gear and continue with another rock. If it was less than 4 notches, take the rock out and repeat the steps with the next gear(s) If you have a rock left at the end, put it in the open gear that opened the ceiling the farthest to the right, per your notes. (I think you get 10 tries, and on the 11th you get jammed and the ceiling resets)
The ceiling won't open quite all the way, but you will be able to see the dots from the 1st part of the clue. Click on one of the dots on the floor as soon as you see them. If you get the clue, you won't have to check any more gears.


The HUNTER CONSTELLATION did not submit (for me) when I connected it like it looked in the clue. And I tried several times. I started playing around with different ways to connect it and finally got it to work by NOT having the arrow go all the way thru. There is a diagram of how it worked for me on the Ferrarihorse guide. It may have been a glitch, but if you are having trouble getting it to submit, and you are sure you have the right coords (use a star mapper) it's worth checking out. Also, the mattrep star mapper might help. It gives you a pic of your sky, with coords around the constellation, so you can see what star connects to what.



TO GET SPELLBOOK RM COORDS:

Get the coords for the sleeper
Add the x column, then the y column
If you have negatives, add (subtract) them accordingly
Then add each digit in each answer, treating the answer as a positive

For example, using my coords for the sleeper

Xaxis=-274, -234, -194, -154, -114, -74= -1044

1&4&4=9

Yaxis=8, -22, -52, -52, -22, 8 =-132

1&3&2=6

My room was 9,6

just 1 exception -- if you're column adds up to less than 100, use that number


or (the easy way)

http://hacks.atrus.org/neopets/findConstellations.fcgi
gives constellation coords and spellbook room coords (at bottom of list)


TO FIND THE ROOM AFTER U HAVE YR COORDS:

go to the archives
click on the closed door
go thru any door in that room
look for arcx and arcy in the middle of the url
put in your room coords in place of the numbers that are there
click on each clickable book in the room till you find the spellbook

OR

go to the archives
click on the closed door
click on the right door the number of times for your x coord
click on the top door the number of times for your y coord
check the addr bar and make sure the arcx= and arcy= numbers in the url match your room coords. If not, change them to the right numbers and click enter

If you can't click on books, go back to the Book of Ages and click on the DF's flames in the pic at the bottom of pg 53. Then talk to the lenny and go back to your room and try again


There will be 4 clickable doors and 31 clickable books in the room. Try every book. I used the tab key to find them all. To use the tab key, click somewhere in the middle of the room, then hit tab. It will outline each clickable item in white, one item for each tab
It will start with the doors. The 5th click will be a book
Just check each book as u find it, then start over with the tabs and tab one more time each round till u find the right book

THE RIGHT SPELL IS:

29884
nothing happens
return to HOH
click on df statue
click on her chest/neck
(if u already have the necklace on her from a previous constellation, u may not have to do that last step) then read the rest of the story and the epilogue in the book of ages









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